Leadership In Tech Episode 60: Interview With Dino

In our 60th episode Zac and Errol interview Dino, a specialist in neurology and biomedical engineering. Dino answers and affirms all of Zac and Errol’s recent episodes on meditation, breathing, Wim Hof, mindfulness, and being in the moment.

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Episode #60 Outline:

03:04: Main episode starts. GUEST introduced and gives his background and credentials.  They ask him what his credentials for neuroscience specifically are, and to define what neuroscience is and his part in it.  He explains what he does, and how he works towards figure out how the brain works and advancing science with know neurological conditions (e.g. epilepsy, autism, etc.).  

10:04: [clip 1]Dino touches on how even though meditation isn’t more popular now, there was a time when exercise wasn’t popular and people figured out and started writing that if you wanted to live longer, healthier, lives then you need to run or do some sort of aerobic exercise.

Errol asks Dino how neuroplasticity work, how the brain is able to adapt and change.

15:46:  Dino explains why it’s harder but still possible to change something that’s hardwired into your neural pathways that is emotion driven.   He connects these responses to our instinct and hardwiring from birth and our natural fight or flight reaction translating itself to modern day situations (e.g. your boss emailing you or your wife triggering an emotional response).  

This is were slower pathways, and ‘mindfulness’, like meditation, comes into play, and can help when rewiring your pathways.

20:19:  [clip 2] How does this relate to people in a tech environment, under that stress?  It can teach them to ‘reprogram’ their responses, their ‘software’ in their brain so that even though you can’t turn it off you can minimize the impact of the fight or flight response to these situations. This will allow you to deal with them on a more parasympathetic level rather than instinctive reactions based on emotion. It won’t teach you to block emotion, but rather how to react to it better.

26:02: [clip 3] Dino talks about the perception of meditation in the United States, and his endeavours to separate it from any type of religious affiliation or connection.  There is a very simple breath meditation you can do that is non-religious and more like a mental exercise, and you can learn it in 10 seconds he says.

Dino goes through the effects on the brain from doing a breathing exercise or meditation.

33:21:  Errol runs an idea by Dino about people who are seeking it for a holistic or spiritual grasp the science side as a result of meditation, versus most of the tech people approaching mediation might not get the spiritual side but after understanding the science can start practicing mindfulness and breathing and build their way to a spiritual understanding of it.

The next component is how it can help them not treat, but help control their anxiety, depression, or other mental illnesses, although if it is bad enough a change of environment is the most effective, as well as other things such as sleep, diet, and physical exercise.

41:22: Errol talks about knowledge and how powerful it can be. He talks about a book, and some studies, that he read that show how patients informed that their back pain was psychosomatic were cured the moment it was explained or showed to them. They were actually taking emotional pain or trauma, and instead of dealing with it normally their bodies are manifesting them as a physical ailment or pain.

They discuss how powerful knowing something can be, and understanding the mechanisms of a process can help you actually complete the process in a more efficient manner.

Errol Doebler